Regardless of what occurs, someone's likely to be subject to an "unfair" situation. Especially if the season and playoffs are cancelled outright.
This includes teams that traded for rentals, depending on how the standings eventually break down.
Even the most worst case scenario should have a very weighted draft lottery. - david22
The rental trade issue is the one I can’t think of a fair way for teams involved and is a large part of the reason why I hope we see a return and the cup handed out.
I would do the following but only apply to traded with FA’s and all compensated picks apply to the 2021 draft (that way teams aren’t compensated before a player’s contract expires). If a player signs an extension the following is voided
-I would set a timeline on when the deal had to be made (something like 45 days before deadline).
-The picks teams acquired remain with the team that acquired them, but a team that traded away said draft pick will be compensated with a one at the end of the same round as the pick traded away.
-Conditional picks will be based on the point percentage order of the standings for conditions making the playoffs or not
-conditions based on playoff performances will be treated like a first round lost (that it hasn’t been met)
I don’t know how the league will get around it but that’s a start. There will likely need to be arbitrator ruling for trades involving both an FA and another player with term, as well as teams that maybe just traded prospects for FA’s
I think the format will just need to be tweaked a little bit for the bubble teams since 90% of the season has been played:
-arrange the order based on points percentage
-bottom ten teams odds remain the same
-teams 10-15 will have their odds reduced and dispersed to teams 16-20
- teams 21-31 will participate in a separate lottery to determine the final 11 spots.
Winning percentage would get my vote. How could it be more fair? Also simple and uncomplicated. As for rentals, they rarely work anyways. You spin the wheel, you take your chances. I for one am not interested in watching hockey in July. If they're willing to postpone/move the June 25th draft, they know it's a done deal. Cancel the season already.
Winning percentage would get my vote. How could it be more fair? Also simple and uncomplicated. As for rentals, they rarely work anyways. You spin the wheel, you take your chances. I for one am not interested in watching hockey in July. If they're willing to postpone/move the June 25th draft, they know it's a done deal. Cancel the season already. - Hardbalz
They postponed the draft because it can’t be done before the year is over. Not say we’ll see a return but I do believe I saw that the nhl asked the arena’s for dates going into august. If the league can manage to finish the year they will since the playoffs generate more revenue than 1-2 months of next season will anyways
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The lottery sucks. There is parity in the league with one exception--the Wings.
Ottawa overall is not good but they aren't horrible. On any night they've had a legitimate chance to win.
I think a tournament like this rewards teams that are close but not deep or that have grown old. Not by rewarding the teams that are managed poorly and realize tanking is the best.
The thing I like about Ottawa is this isn't a tank like what the Pegulas put up.
They will not change the formula for any team that does not make the playoffs. It will be a straight point or percentage calculation and it does not matter how it gets done it pretty well works out to the same thing.
The only difference for me is if they go to a larger playoff formula (eg., including 20 or 24 teams) with a qualifying round.
Are teams entered into a qualifying round excluded from the lottery? Or, are the teams losing in a qualifying playoff round added into the lottery sweeps?
The lottery sucks. There is parity in the league with one exception--the Wings.
Ottawa overall is not good but they aren't horrible. On any night they've had a legitimate chance to win.
I think a tournament like this rewards teams that are close but not deep or that have grown old. Not by rewarding the teams that are managed poorly and realize tanking is the best.
The thing I like about Ottawa is this isn't a tank like what the Pegulas put up. - BluemanGuruu
They can't screw with the lottery without having to go back and revisit the deal that have cut with Seattle for expansion. Nobody wants to give back the Seattle money, especially with what has happened to the hockey economy this season.
Let`s go all kamikazee on this. It is going to be unfair anyhow. How about non playoff teams hold a draw for one opponent each in a best of 3 series. Winner gets opponent`s first round pick (regardless of team who owns it). Meaning if say the Red Wings beat the Sharks, well the Senators have one less 1st rounder.
Let`s go all kamikazee on this. It is going to be unfair anyhow. How about non playoff teams hold a draw for one opponent each in a best of 3 series. Winner gets opponent`s first round pick (regardless of team who owns it). Meaning if say the Red Wings beat the Sharks, well the Senators have one less 1st rounder. - habfanforever
You can't screw with basic contract law. How about allowing everybody to reverse the purchase of shares they bought in Princess Cruise Lines last month.
Lawyers will decide how the draft is done. Even if 30 teams vote to take away Detroit's preference at the draft, they can't if Detroit says no.
Let`s go all kamikazee on this. It is going to be unfair anyhow. How about non playoff teams hold a draw for one opponent each in a best of 3 series. Winner gets opponent`s first round pick (regardless of team who owns it). Meaning if say the Red Wings beat the Sharks, well the Senators have one less 1st rounder. - habfanforever
I know you're not serious, but how would that apply to teams that dont have their first.
They can't screw with the lottery without having to go back and revisit the deal that have cut with Seattle for expansion. Nobody wants to give back the Seattle money, especially with what has happened to the hockey economy this season. - spatso
If theres no lpayoffs we ll likely see some minor change at least
for something like that to work, you'd need buy in from pretty much every team that was going to be in the lottery........obviously the teams with the worst odds would be all for this, because it's likely better odds than they had. just as obviously, the teams at the bottom of the standings would never go for this.
most of the "experts" that i've read have said that they expect little to change in terms of the draft lottery......obviously nothing concrete announced yet, but they expect it to stay pretty much the same.
for something like that to work, you'd need buy in from pretty much every team that was going to be in the lottery........obviously the teams with the worst odds would be all for this, because it's likely better odds than they had. just as obviously, the teams at the bottom of the standings would never go for this.
most of the "experts" that i've read have said that they expect little to change in terms of the draft lottery......obviously nothing concrete announced yet, but they expect it to stay pretty much the same. - sensarmy_11
I have no idea why you'd mess with the draft formula at all - the teams REALLY getting the shaft here are the playoff bubble teams, but now there's no revenue in playoffs, penalizing the basement dwellers who never had a shot at the show seems unnecessarily cruel. If anything, instead of thinking about rejigging the draft they really need to figure out how to reconcile the issue where there are 22 teams realistically in range of the playoffs at stoppage, some teams with games in hand. Now that's unfair- solving the draft lottery at the bottom (picks 1-10) is less the problem than solving it from the top (picks 11-15)
I have no idea why you'd mess with the draft formula at all - the teams REALLY getting the shaft here are the playoff bubble teams, but now there's no revenue in playoffs, penalizing the basement dwellers who never had a shot at the show seems unnecessarily cruel. If anything, instead of thinking about rejigging the draft they really need to figure out how to reconcile the issue where there are 22 teams realistically in range of the playoffs at stoppage, some teams with games in hand. Now that's unfair- solving the draft lottery at the bottom (picks 1-10) is less the problem than solving it from the top (picks 11-15) - Bartacus
I think you can do a playoff round for bubble teams (eg, 12-20). Teams making playoff are out of lottery. losing teams are in lottery consistant with their point finish in regular season.
obviously sens fans (and Detroit, LA etc) will hate any idea that messes with the existing standings. I don't understand why they wouldn't just use the winning percentage or points per game for the year and be done with it. If that was the case - how would the positions fall out then?
obviously sens fans (and Detroit, LA etc) will hate any idea that messes with the existing standings. I don't understand why they wouldn't just use the winning percentage or points per game for the year and be done with it. If that was the case - how would the positions fall out then? - CaliNewf
I am sure that LA would prefer a draft lottery based on record after a fixed number of games that all teams have played - 68 games. That would put them after Detroit. Anaheim and a few other teams would also likely want in on that action.
Capping records at a certain number of games could also seen as being "fair".
